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vance71975
 
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I recently talked on the Phone with a Plant grower for one of the Plant sales web Sites, cant remember which one right off hand. He made some comments that Startled me a bit.
He said that Amano's Soils are and i quote "CRAP".
He said Eco Complete is a far better Product.
Also recommended Plain Pea Gravel over Amano Soils(with root tabs).
Said he used Amano's Line and Striped it out of the tank in favor of Eco Complete.
I just found those statements Shocking as i was under the impression that Amano was the Top Go To Guy in Planted tanks.Other than that only Advice i found to be Odd was he highly recommended In gravel Heating cords.Thoughts on this?I am in the middle of a disability claim and If approved i will be getting a big back check and was considering setting up a tank with Amanos Products but after hearing this from a guy who grows Aquatic plants for a living im not so sure.
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Amano products require a lot of very, very careful work. You can't disturb the substrate, lay it correctly, etc. It's just not worth it! Plus the price is just completely insaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaane. Skip the CO2 thing as well. You can do a complete CO2 setup with a 20lb tank for that price. Want a smell with it? Grab some substrate and wipe it on your chest like Vix Vapor Rub.
There are much, much better products out their for a very small fraction of the cost. You're paying for the name. Check out a lot of Amano's aquascapes. He doesn't use his own products! He may now but didn't for many years yet his tanks were amazing.
The only thing I'd think of buying is an ADA tank. Then again, you can get one made for a similar cost and your own dimensions.
Eco-complete is simple and has been proven thousands of times over as being an excellent product. Can't go wrong.
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vance71975
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Burks said :
Amano products require a lot of very, very careful work. You can't disturb the substrate, lay it correctly, etc. It's just not worth it! Plus the price is just completely insaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaane. Skip the CO2 thing as well. You can do a complete CO2 setup with a 20lb tank for that price. Want a smell with it? Grab some substrate and wipe it on your chest like Vix Vapor Rub. There are much, much better products out their for a very small fraction of the cost. You're paying for the name. Check out a lot of Amano's aquascapes. He doesn't use his own products! He may now but didn't for many years yet his tanks were amazing. The only thing I'd think of buying is an ADA tank. Then again, you can get one made for a similar cost and your own dimensions. Eco-complete is simple and has been proven thousands of times over as being an excellent product. Can't go wrong.
Hmmm see that is shocking again, cause i though Amano was the guy of guys in planted tanks and his products are touted as the best of the best, but ya i agree over 700 to set up with all ada products insane prices.
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Some people swear by the undergravel heating cables. I've never tried them. I always try to do things cheap if I can. I think it would be nice not to see the heater, but then I don't run them during the summer anyway.
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Mention undergravel heating cables and people will call you old school!
It's odd. Some of the best tanks in the world have never had an Amano product near them. Sort of like the marine side of the hobby. You don't need a Bubble Master to have the best looking tank. Can you get similar results for a lot less money? Oh yeah!
Amano is great if you can afford it, want to do a pure Amano set up, or want to show it off like a prized car. Myself, and a lot of other hobbyist, really don't find the stuff needed. He has his own metal halide fixtures that people are saying are sooooooooooooo much better than any other fixture on the market. How? Yeah they have an 8800k bulb but why is the fixture/ballast so great? No one has given a true answer to that. To some, Amano = best even if it isn't. Pay for the name...
I've yet to see someone prove if his products are really THAT good or if it just isn't the person doing all the work on the tank making it that good.
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