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vance71975
 
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I hear A lot of people Dogging George W Bush because of everything from the Economy to The war in Iraq. Some things people don't want to think about Because its easier to Blame the current President than the last one, Remember it was Clinton who Passed NAFTA and Allowed big Business to ship product lines to Mexico where they can pay .50 an hour wages Not Bush! The Fact is Bush has the Hardest Job in America and Deserves respect for doing it the best he can! Here are some other facts i found interesting!
John Glenn said... This should make us think a lot…
There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq in January. In the fair city of Detroit there were 35 murders in the month of January. That's just one American city, about as deadly as the entire war-torn country of Iraq .
When some claim that President Bush shouldn't have started this war, state the following:
a. FDR led us into World War II.
b. Germany never attacked us ; Japan did. >From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost . an average of 112,500 per year.
c. Truman finished that war and started one in Korea North Korea never attacked us . >From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost . an average of 18,334 per year.
d. John F. Kennedy started the Vietnam conflict in 1962. Vietnam never attacked us.
e. Johnson turned Vietnam into a quagmire. >From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost . an average of 5,800 per year.
f. Clinton went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent. Bosnia never attacked us . He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions.
g. In the years since terrorists attacked us , President Bush has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Libya , Iran , and, North Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people.
The Democrats are complaining about how long the war is taking.
But Wait
It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51-day operation..
We've been looking for evidence for chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing records.
It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Ted Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick.
The biased media hopes we are too ignorant to realize the facts
But wait! There's more! Be sure to read ALL THE WAY to the end.
JOHN GLENN (on the Senate floor - January 26, 2004)
Some people still don't understand why military personnel do what they do for a living. This exchange between Senators John Glenn and Senator Howard Metzenbaum is worth reading. Not only is it a pretty impressive impromptu speech, but it's also a good example of one man's explanation of why men and women in the armed services do what they do for a living.
This IS a typical, though sad, example of what some who have never served think of the military.
Senator Metzenbaum (speaking to Senator Glenn): 'How can you run for Senate when you've never held a real job?'
Senator Glenn (D-Ohio): 'I served 23 years in the United States Marine Corps. I served through two wars. I flew 149 missions. My plane was hit by anti-aircraft fire on 12 different occasions. I was in the space program. It wasn't my checkbook, Howard; it was my life on the line. It was not a nine-to-five job, where I took time off to take the daily cash receipts to the bank.'
'I ask you to go with me . . as I went the other day... to a veteran's hospital and look those men .. with their mangled bodies . in the eye, and tell THEM they didn't hold a job!
You go with me to the Space Program at NASA and go, as I have gone, to the widows and Orphans of Ed White, Gus Grissom and Roger Chaffee... and you look those kids in the eye and tell them that their DADS didn't hold a job.
You go with me on Memorial Day and you stand in Arlington National Cemetery, where I have more friends buried than I'd like to remember, and you watch those waving flags.
You stand there, and you think about this nation, and you tell ME that those people didn't have a job?
What about you?' For those who don't remember During W.W.II, Howard Metzenbaum was an attorney representing the Communist Party in the USA
Now he's a Senator!
If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading it in English thank a Veteran.
Take into consideration that this was wrote in 2004 and we hadn't been at war nearly as long as we have today. But the mass of the facts still hold their point.
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Food for THOUHGT!!!
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woodycb
 

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Im tired of hearing people complain about high gas prices because bush is an oil man from texas. He is the one who wants to drill in alaska, the sissies in congress keep turing it down. I guess saving a caribou's life is more important than millions of americans losing there homes. Pitty.
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BenS

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Sorry, I couldn't resist, especially with the comment about the Congress resisting drilling in the Alaskan National Wildlife Refuge, I got this in an email a few weeks ago. Take a look at the pictures of ANWR.
http://blog.heritage.org/2008/06/29/the-truth-about-anwr/
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vance71975
 
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woodycb said :
Im tired of hearing people complain about high gas prices because bush is an oil man from texas. He is the one who wants to drill in alaska, the sissies in congress keep turing it down. I guess saving a caribou's life is more important than millions of americans losing there homes. Pitty.
Exactly And he also wants to drill offshore in the gulf of Mexico but congress wont let him. We are setting on BILLIONS AND BILLIONS of gallons of untapped oil that according to current laws we cant touch, Bush has tried more than once to change that! Bush Also wanted to Suspend the Gas tax but again Congress refused! The man is trying but Congress is turning him down at every turn. And most people just jump to blame him for every thing that is wrong in America today.When really the state of America today is due to a LONG LONG history of BS by a LARGE number of politicians.
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vance71975
 
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BenS said :
Sorry, I couldn't resist, especially with the comment about the Congress resisting drilling in the Alaskan National Wildlife Refuge, I got this in an email a few weeks ago. Take a look at the pictures of ANWR. http://blog.heritage.org/2008/06/29/the-truth-about-anwr/
Thank you Ben that just illustrates the point even further.
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Burks

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Hasn't oil drilling advanced beyond the stages of being drastically "bad" for the environment? I doubt it's the same as it was 50 years ago in regards to being environmentally "clean" or whatever you want to call it.
Yeah we're drilling in a protected area but I doubt that it is any HUGE threat like some people make it out to believe.
If anything, it should give us a little padding so we can hurry up and get to more efficient means of transportation before we're effected any more.
Got to admit, that $3.52 a gallon is sure nice! Had to say it but anything under $4 makes me happy.
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How does drilling in any new location decrease our dependance on oil? It doesn't. If people really want to make the economy better then we need to find alternate energy. I don't think it is neccessary to drill any where new because I recently read an artical that claimed that there are areas that the oil companies could drill but choose not to because they have to "lease" the land. They don't want to spend the money. If the economy was not so bad I believe people would not be so down on President Bush, but the times make the President, the President doen't make the times. As far as Iraq goes, I don't quite understand why we can't start bringing the troops home. We started the job with an undersized force that was able to over throw the government in record time. All the campaign commercials I have been seeing have said that that the Iraq government is taking over more and more control of the policing operation. Violence is down yet we can't start being the troops home. There is not reason why we can't start moving out of Iraq. Don't say the region is not stable enough, that country has never been stable. The "tribes" of that area of the world have been fighting for hundreds of years. We went in with the idea that we could change the way they feel about each other, quite frankly we were wrong.
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Vance, obviously you don't have any relations in Iraq, seeing what our fearless leader has forced us into. I have a son there right now (Iraq), a nephew in Afghanistan, and have lost not 1, but 2 other nephews in Iraq, you can defend bush all you want, he needs to be brought up on war crimes himself. Just an IMO.
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vance71975
 
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cichlidlover said :
Vance, obviously you don't have any relations in Iraq, seeing what our fearless leader has forced us into. I have a son there right now (Iraq), a nephew in Afghanistan, and have lost not 1, but 2 other nephews in Iraq, you can defend bush all you want, he needs to be brought up on war crimes himself. Just an IMO.
War crimes? What exactly is his war crime? Stopping a dictator that Slaughtered over 300,000 of his Own people, was that his crime? Freeing a country from being ruled by a Terrorist Sect, was that his war crime? Oh wait i know Stopping Innocent people from being killing by power hungry mad men that was his war crime right? Family their no but i have a ton of friends their and guess what most of them believe in what they are doing and many have volunteered to go back. And yes i have lost friends their, they died heroes, serving their country, not a nobler death can be found. That is the problem with America today, we have become Sissy's who worry to damn much about feelings and emotions and human rights and not enough about doing what needs done. The only "Crime" Bush is guilty of is having the Balls to do what needed done even though the rest of the world wanted to be cowards about it. I remember when the motto's in this country were things like "Walk softly and carry a big stick" Or "Freedom must occasionally be renewed with the blood of patriots". Now its more like "Watch every thing you say cause you may hurt someones feelings or step on someones rights". This is why Terrorist had the nerve to Attack us on our soil, they seen that we were getting weak.Bush has balls and he gets things done. Iraq is more stable now than it has ever been, but it is Fragile and if we up and leave before it is completely stable it will just fall apart. Remember Vietnam? If Anything that should show what happens when you leave before the job is done.
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http://www.wilmasthecause.org/
They helped me out,i feel adding the site to my Sig is the least i can do.
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