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RJS8540

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Location : Lambertville, MI
Posted : 7/20/2008 8:37:45 PM  

My brother-in-law has 2 Pacu about 10"-12"  in size and would like to give them to a good home. He is looking forward to expanding into Cichlids and needs the Tank that is housing the Pacu at this time. Also included is a rare Walking Cat. Call ANYTIME Rob aka "RJ'S Aquarium Stands if no answer Please leave a message at 734-347-1638

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RJS8540

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Posted : 7/21/2008 9:06:40 AM  

Cat pending. Would really like to move the 2 Pacu ASAP

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RJS8540

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Posted : 7/28/2008 10:47:27 PM  

I know that Buk is interested in the Cat but my brother-in-law would really like the three of them to go together he says they've been together so long that they are like "Family". So any takers? 

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KingDiamond

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Location : Toledo, Ohio
Posted : 7/29/2008 9:13:25 PM  
RJS8540 said :

My brother-in-law has 2 Pacu about 10"-12"  in size and would like to give them to a good home. He is looking forward to expanding into Cichlids and needs the Tank that is housing the Pacu at this time. Also included is a rare Walking Cat. Call ANYTIME Rob aka "RJ'S Aquarium Stands if no answer Please leave a message at 734-347-1638




Telling someone that you want to give them Pacu is like telling them you want to give them rabies.
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RJS8540

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Posted : 7/29/2008 9:58:14 PM  
KingDiamond said :
RJS8540 said :

My brother-in-law has 2 Pacu about 10"-12"  in size and would like to give them to a good home. He is looking forward to expanding into Cichlids and needs the Tank that is housing the Pacu at this time. Also included is a rare Walking Cat. Call ANYTIME Rob aka "RJ'S Aquarium Stands if no answer Please leave a message at 734-347-1638




Telling someone that you want to give them Pacu is like telling them you want to give them rabies.


I'm glad I wasn't drinking anything when I read this because it would have surely come out of my nose. Really my wife said maybe the Zoo would take them, I had to tell her you worked there.

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farmertodd

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Posted : 7/29/2008 10:23:12 PM  

Yeah, I was thinking more along the lines of the clap, but rabies works okay  ;)

Euthenasia with clove oil is probably the most humane way to solve the situation.  You can denature it into solution with some drinking alcohol (bacardi works best for my eutheneeds ;)  You can get clove oil for a reasonable price at a health food store, I think I paid $5 at Claudias last time. 

If I'm doing a big fish like that, I usually get a plastic bag, put in a fair amount of the clove oil (like 20 or 30 drops), give it a splash of the alcohol, and then mix into the container with the fish.  If after stirring that in they just get drousy, do another 10 drops, same way.  It doesn't take that much of the alcohol to denature it either. 

The fish will get wobbly and then roll over and go to sleep.  It's even more serene than a penathol shot you may have watch administered to a beloved fur butt pet.

If you want to be cruel, or play God, you can put the fish into fresh water and completely revive it.   It's kinda weird how it works.  But like I said, it's a pretty danged good way to go. 

Todd

p.s.  Don't tell the sales person at Claudias what you're using it for  ;) 

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schambers

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Location : Sylvania Township, Ohio
Posted : 7/30/2008 4:20:16 PM  

I use clove oil.  (Didn't tell the clerk at Bassett's what it was for.)  I usually just shake 5 or 6 drops into a couple cups of water in the Fish Bowl O Death and stir.  Does the alcohol make it mix better?

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farmertodd

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Posted : 7/30/2008 8:29:19 PM  

Waaaaaay better.  With 5 or 6 drops they'll roll immediately.  It's like Lights OUT.

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BuK

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Posted : 7/30/2008 11:21:51 PM  

as long as u don't rub out the cat it sounds like an ideal way to get the job done. to be honest i'd rather see that happen than have someone be stuck with a fish far too large and unhappy/unhealthy to fit in any tank any normal person can afford.

now the zoo would be an ideal spot for these guys to end up. but as any of us that took the tour saw, there is precious little room available there. they do a great job with the hand they're dealt at the zoo but the space and recourses are far from limitless

hc8719

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Posted : 8/1/2008 12:25:34 AM  

This is so horrible we are talking about how we all kill fish with clove oil? Isn't this an aquarist forum? ...geeze lol

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vance71975

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Posted : 8/1/2008 7:43:26 AM  
hc8719 said :

This is so horrible we are talking about how we all kill fish with clove oil? Isn't this an aquarist forum? ...geeze lol




Was thinking the same thing. i try to avoid killing fish(doesn't always Work dang it but i try) And really Pacu are a cool looking fish i don't see whats so bad about them other than they are mean.
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Aquatic Aquaman

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Posted : 8/1/2008 8:47:15 AM  

I'm sure there is someone out there that would like a free fish even if it is a Pacu.

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schambers

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Location : Sylvania Township, Ohio
Posted : 8/1/2008 10:12:50 AM  

Yeah, I don't enjoy it, but sometimes it needs to be done.  If I have to do it, I don't want the fish to suffer. 

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KingDiamond

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Location : Toledo, Ohio
Posted : 8/1/2008 10:24:33 AM  
vance71975 said :
hc8719 said :

This is so horrible we are talking about how we all kill fish with clove oil? Isn't this an aquarist forum? ...geeze lol




Was thinking the same thing. i try to avoid killing fish(doesn't always Work dang it but i try) And really Pacu are a cool looking fish i don't see whats so bad about them other than they are mean.



Some diseases are uncureable. Leaving a fish to "linger" is far worse than euthanasia.

"i don't see whats so bad about them other than they are mean" They get close to four foot long, and enless you have set up a small above ground pool in your basement, you won't be able to keep them full grown.
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bananaboat

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Location : Monroe MI
Posted : 8/1/2008 5:08:09 PM  

try taking them to daves tropicalfish on lewis in toledo they should take them for free and find a new home for them they took my oscars back when i had freshwater hope this helps

vance71975

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Location : Bryan,Ohio
Posted : 8/1/2008 5:17:31 PM  
KingDiamond said :
vance71975 said :
hc8719 said :

This is so horrible we are talking about how we all kill fish with clove oil? Isn't this an aquarist forum? ...geeze lol




Was thinking the same thing. i try to avoid killing fish(doesn't always Work dang it but i try) And really Pacu are a cool looking fish i don't see whats so bad about them other than they are mean.



Some diseases are uncureable. Leaving a fish to "linger" is far worse than euthanasia.

"i don't see whats so bad about them other than they are mean" They get close to four foot long, and enless you have set up a small above ground pool in your basement, you won't be able to keep them full grown.



Ok so they get big and you shouldn't have them unless you plan to have a HUGE tank for them, that doesn't make them a bad fish. There is a guy in Bryan with a 2400g tank in his basement But then again that is SW lol
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RJS8540

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Location : Lambertville, MI
Posted : 8/1/2008 10:53:41 PM  

Well, everyone here's the scoop since we can't find a taker for the Pacu, my brother-in-law has decided to keep them and the Cat fish to. Sorry Buk I know you would have liked to get the cat but as I said earlier He wanted them to go together.

 

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schambers

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Posted : 8/1/2008 11:18:24 PM  
vance71975 said :

Ok so they get big and you shouldn't have them unless you plan to have a HUGE tank for them, that doesn't make them a bad fish. There is a guy in Bryan with a 2400g tank in his basement But then again that is SW lol

The only really bad thing about them is that they get so big.  People buy them not realizing how big they get, then they can't find a home for them.  Many people don't want to euthanize them, so they dump them in the nearest body of water.

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farmertodd

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Posted : 8/2/2008 1:15:57 PM  
KingDiamond said :

Some diseases are uncureable. Leaving a fish to "linger" is far worse than euthanasia.

"i don't see whats so bad about them other than they are mean" They get close to four foot long, and enless you have set up a small above ground pool in your basement, you won't be able to keep them full grown.

And I'll add to Brad's comments that Pacu aren't "mean" if they've got enough space and are reared on vegetables such as collard greens and broccoli.  Usually "mean" is more like "freaked out" from claustrophobia and a bad diet.

If I'm such a bad person to put an animal out of a long term suffering situation, I wonder what the karma ratio at time of judgement is for people who profit by selling fish that have absolutely no business being in the aquarium hobby.  They're just screwed!  I wish I really thought that was true.  ;)

Todd

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Burks

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Posted : 8/2/2008 2:00:54 PM  

New project for the zoo. 100,000 pond for Pacus, Redtails, and other HUGE fish.

People could pay to feed chickens to them!

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